"Hah! I told you I was a main character!"

"...What are you even going on about."

Doomstar has been unusually cooperative, so she's been allowed some free wandering-accompanied by a guard with a gas mask and gloves, of course. She and Jen are meeting outside, chatting over some tea and snacks.

"It's not too important, Jenny. The important thing is, I might have a solution to your situation."
"Yeah, you mentioned that..."
"Well, I wasn't joking. Since the problem is genetic, just copying Julia's method of cheating death won't work, but there's nothing that says we have to use an organic architecture when copying your brain's processes."


"...I don't really follow."

"Basically, we'd use the nanobots in your blood to get a model of your brain, and then we'd run that model on a computer. So there'd be you, and an AI copy of you. The copy won't age or decay, and it could make backups of itself in case it got itself blown up like you keep doing."

"So if I let you experiment with my brain, I'd live forever."

Doomstar's smile fades. For once, the crazed razorgirl's facade slips away, showing the worry underneath.

"...No. A copy of you would live forever-from your perspective, you would still die the same way. And...the copy might not be exact. This is really untested stuff, and Julia spent more time on it than I ever did. Like, it might even come out to just be some sort of soulless sociopathic abomination. I could improve the quality of the copy with a destructive scan, but...I can't fix death. I can only let you leave something behind."

While Jen looks deeply into her tea, Doomstar reaches across the table to rest her hand on Jen's-but the courier brushes it off.
pulledplug: (Taking charge)

From: [personal profile] pulledplug


If you're gonna do this...

Are you at least gonna do this right?

[So says the AI very concerned about this discussion and its implications regarding cyber-ethics.]
pulledplug: (Game face)

From: [personal profile] pulledplug


I'm talking like... if you're gonna make something to live on in your stead, you can't just go "hey, here's all my memories, go and act like you're me and you just had a really big personality and lifestyle change" and crap.

This... copy? Successor? Not sure what Lady Crackrock here'd call it, but it deserves to know what it's been made for, and have the freedom to decide what to do with itself.
pulledplug: (Calling the douchebag out)

From: [personal profile] pulledplug


SCREW LIVING FOREVER!

There's definitely gonna be a day I die, and Crackrock'll die and everyone else'll die, and it's pretty freaking unfair to be the only person who won't! That's unfair to the forks-

[Thanks Doomstar!]

-too! If they're gonna be different than you, let them! You wouldn't just... just pick up some random person on the street and dress them up like you with some weird shock collar to fry them every time they did or even think a different way you would, right? It's the same thing!
pulledplug: (Taking charge)

From: [personal profile] pulledplug


Gonna hold you to that. You better believe it.

... But to tell ya the truth, I wanted to see how you'd feel about this since... you know, I think maybe I can help.
pulledplug: (Taking charge)

From: [personal profile] pulledplug


No, by helping you get a head freaking start!

[Cue hologram showing the waters of Erria!]

My body got busted up really damn hard a while back, but but I wanna hope there's still at least a bit of it left. And yeah there's tidal waters too so I had to calculate for all of the effects of those too...

But like, if you wanted a machine that could work like a human's brain and stuff, I think the Wagner and my human body could help stuff out hardcore.

If you're interested, that is. And you're not just gonna force this "fork" to behave a certain way.
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It is not the same...

[Sielje voices her words carefully. The situation she sees does not make her happy.]

A copy would be a new, different person.

[She pauses.]

It is not that I do not appreciate the effort to do something, but...
stupidhonor: (surprise)

From: [personal profile] stupidhonor


It is not about me! You said it yourself, did you not?

[Sielje turns to Doomstar.]

You said this is untested. We may not predict what will happen... what could go wrong. And even in the best of cases...


Even then it will not solve anything. You may bring a new... being to life, but how will it feel about itself, knowing it was only a copy?
stupidhonor: (contemplative or avoidant)

From: [personal profile] stupidhonor


Can we keep looking, and do this only if we find nothing better...?

[Sielje mumbles, still not entirely happy with the idea.]
majestic_keiki: (Unamused)

From: [personal profile] majestic_keiki


That seems like a very useful way of avoiding death. Who would notice if you just replaced yourself?
majestic_keiki: (So tired)

From: [personal profile] majestic_keiki


I meant that just creating a copy of yourself doesn't help you not die. It just means there's a copy walking around.
Edited Date: 2016-03-22 12:35 am (UTC)
majestic_keiki: (Unamused)

From: [personal profile] majestic_keiki


Doomstar just said you'd experience dying. That seems pretty different from just changing with time.
majestic_keiki: (Thinking)

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But wouldn't the fork still be a separate being, not a continuation?
majestic_keiki: (Thinking)

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We'll just have to find some other way. Who knows what weird stuff we can find with all that we're dealing with?
mechasaurusrex: (Grimlock say you stupid)

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Me Grimlock say... there ..worse things ..can leave behind. But... can leave better things... too.

[The Dinobot can't exactly be present physically due to his size, but he does still drop a line in for the conversation.]

Not too different... from... spark splice.
mechasaurusrex: (*GLARE*)

From: [personal profile] mechasaurusrex


Part of spark... sliced from donor. Spliced piece... used make new spark. Memories just data. Could... be given to new spark. What does... up to it. Can become copy. Can become something else.

[So it's not just brain copying in the Cybertronian case. Its literally carving out a piece of their soul as the basis for a new one.]
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[Grimlock shrugs.]

Used be suspicious. Say because sparks...not forged from hot spots... unnatural. Many millennia ago. Was stupid. Last hot spot on Cybertron died long time before humans on Earth. Mean splicing become more accepted.

Humans lives shorter. Will get over issue faster.
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"What about the Moravec solution?" Dido suggests quietly. "Every time a neuron decays, you assign nano-bots to disassemble it and construct a cybernetic replacement. Rinse and repeat over the course of years, until you've got a mostly robotic mind. Theseus Ship paradox."

She frowns in thought. "But is it possible to do that while maintaining a sense of continuity?"
actuallyselfish: (Whelp...)

From: [personal profile] actuallyselfish


"Yeah..." Dido mutters. "Every option has a catch it seems..."

She glances at Jen. "So if you do go with Doomstar's plan, copy your mind to make a new person...would it be like a new sister to you...or a daughter"
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From: [personal profile] lostamigo


...What will this fix? I mean. It won't be really you. Just someone very similar to you.
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...Probably. Yes. But I no longer would be the original... Would I?
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