[And because of the semi-unrestricted nature of the UG's combat logs, Fyra is able to display the UG's many trash-talking moments through a holographic projection from her palm. Not only that, but the instances where enemies are not taken seriously, or joked/snarked about are brought up too.
But it's not every single enemy the UG has faced: the thing that the foes in all these pieces of footage have in common are that they are human/sentient, and/or their backgrounds were shrouded in mystery, and remain a mystery to the UG to this day.
Of particular note in these are Vlaams Leger members, Leos, the UE, the Wulgaru, the Balmarians, and the SSR before they were confirmed to be friendly.
Strangely, there's also a piece from one Goddess who claims she was accused of being a school-bomber by a UG member just because she had her hood on for mysterious effect.]
Interesting. I have my own personal thought on them, which I will tell you soon no matter how much you will complain but I'd like to hear your opinion first.
Do you think we should have considered their point of view or rethink about them? By them I mean those who you highlighted. Leos. The Wulgaru.
Well, those are pretty unrelated, don't you think? That Leos was our ally, and Leos has crazy unworkable plan to destroy the world, is completely unrelated. I mean, was the fact that Leos was our ally make his plan more reasonable or more easily be empathized? I don't think so. Should we tried to give him better mental support when he was still our friend? Yes. Should we try to consider that maybe, dropping a colony to earth would solve earth's problems? Not really.
Same with the fact that Wulgaru seeing human as prey, and some Wulgaru individuals allies with us to defend ourself against them. The fact that some Wulgaru decides to defend us actually highlight how unreasonable the whole Wulgaru's point of view is.
The fact is, some people's end goal is just unreasonable, and that's just life.
Really, if I want to give examples of times when Unity Group should have been more understanding, I honestly won't pick the examples you gave.
And I haven't even touched my original thought on them or on Brye and Rani.
Is that why some members of this group found them humorous, while others refused to take them seriously?
My answer was a yes, because I believe they should at least be respected as enemies - those you will have to stop by any means necessary. Reconsideration of what and who they are is required for that.
What you have said, and thinking twice about simply insulting them...is different. The threats they represented were no joke, and there were reasons behind them that we knew or did not fully comprehend. Yet, there were those from this group who treated it as such.
We did try to stop by any means necessary. I think that's a better sign of taking people seriously other than reconsidering their point of view.
I guess joking is a way for human to cope against the absurdity of life. In one way or another everything in life is absurd, but trying to drop a colony on earth is even more so I guess.
You can't blame people to try to chip off the edge of the cliff of absurdity of having to fight their friend-turned-crazy by trying to snark about it. Human will turn insane if they face everything with full-blown-tension. Joking in the face of death is a wholesome tradition of soldiers since time imemorial.
As a professional soldier, once you raise your arms, you lost the right to complain when you get shot. That's part of the social-contract of being a soldier, and that's what differentiate between DC soldiers and Federation soldiers, and ragtag militias who try to defend their home.
Same with trying to conquer the world.
Once your end goal is complete subjugation of humanity by force, you lost your right to have your ideals peer-reviewed. People are just going to stop you, no should just stop you without thinking about it.
And...
A soldier shouldn't care if people doesn't take their ideals seriously. Because that's what wars are. A clash of ideals. Ideally, both sides should understand that the other side think that their ideals are in the right.
But as I said, once your end goal is destruction of earth, you lost your right to have your ideal discussed civilly. By then having people discuss your idea seriously is a privilege, not a right.
Same with being a soldier. Once you raise your arms as soldier, you lost your right to complain when you get shot at war.
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If you believe that your enemies deserved being looked down upon regardless of who they were, my observations would not benefit you.
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It's like saying, "If you believe cats shouldn't be kicked, my observation on people who kick cats would not benefit you."
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[And because of the semi-unrestricted nature of the UG's combat logs, Fyra is able to display the UG's many trash-talking moments through a holographic projection from her palm. Not only that, but the instances where enemies are not taken seriously, or joked/snarked about are brought up too.
But it's not every single enemy the UG has faced: the thing that the foes in all these pieces of footage have in common are that they are human/sentient, and/or their backgrounds were shrouded in mystery, and remain a mystery to the UG to this day.
Of particular note in these are Vlaams Leger members, Leos, the UE, the Wulgaru, the Balmarians, and the SSR before they were confirmed to be friendly.
Strangely, there's also a piece from one Goddess who claims she was accused of being a school-bomber by a UG member just because she had her hood on for mysterious effect.]
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Do you think we should have considered their point of view or rethink about them? By them I mean those who you highlighted. Leos. The Wulgaru.
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The Wulgaru saw humans as prey. Leos Klein threatened the world for his own ends.
Yet, members of the former contributed to the defense of the Earth Sphere. The latter, while unstable, was your ally before.
Even if they had to be stopped... as a whole, neither were as simple as black or white.
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Same with the fact that Wulgaru seeing human as prey, and some Wulgaru individuals allies with us to defend ourself against them. The fact that some Wulgaru decides to defend us actually highlight how unreasonable the whole Wulgaru's point of view is.
The fact is, some people's end goal is just unreasonable, and that's just life.
Really, if I want to give examples of times when Unity Group should have been more understanding, I honestly won't pick the examples you gave.
And I haven't even touched my original thought on them or on Brye and Rani.
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My answer was a yes, because I believe they should at least be respected as enemies - those you will have to stop by any means necessary. Reconsideration of what and who they are is required for that.
What you have said, and thinking twice about simply insulting them...is different. The threats they represented were no joke, and there were reasons behind them that we knew or did not fully comprehend. Yet, there were those from this group who treated it as such.
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I guess joking is a way for human to cope against the absurdity of life. In one way or another everything in life is absurd, but trying to drop a colony on earth is even more so I guess.
You can't blame people to try to chip off the edge of the cliff of absurdity of having to fight their friend-turned-crazy by trying to snark about it. Human will turn insane if they face everything with full-blown-tension. Joking in the face of death is a wholesome tradition of soldiers since time imemorial.
But here's what's my opinion on it:
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As a professional soldier, once you raise your arms, you lost the right to complain when you get shot. That's part of the social-contract of being a soldier, and that's what differentiate between DC soldiers and Federation soldiers, and ragtag militias who try to defend their home.
Same with trying to conquer the world.
Once your end goal is complete subjugation of humanity by force, you lost your right to have your ideals peer-reviewed. People are just going to stop you, no should just stop you without thinking about it.
And...
A soldier shouldn't care if people doesn't take their ideals seriously. Because that's what wars are. A clash of ideals. Ideally, both sides should understand that the other side think that their ideals are in the right.
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You do not believe that any of it was... excessive?
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But as I said, once your end goal is destruction of earth, you lost your right to have your ideal discussed civilly. By then having people discuss your idea seriously is a privilege, not a right.
Same with being a soldier. Once you raise your arms as soldier, you lost your right to complain when you get shot at war.
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However, she does give an understanding nod before she walks away.]