cloningblues: (looking kinda down)
Toshikazu Asagi ([personal profile] cloningblues) wrote in [community profile] srwu2014-10-13 09:22 pm

We have the account name, folks

[The discovery that yet another alien enemy race is presumably human-like drives Asagi to reflection. He's looking at the bonsai tree in his room, which seems to be growing fairly well.]

...The Wulgaru use an army of obedient clones to fight. These clones don't even have the will to refuse; they can only fight, and die when they're no longer needed. The Balmarians are similar; they want humans to be their soldiers. They want someone other to fight for them.

[A pause. He draws parallels to his own situation.]

...Are they really that different from humans?
actuallyselfish: (Justice...and Stuff!)

[personal profile] actuallyselfish 2014-10-13 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"Probably not." Dido snorts with contempt. "Pretending to be a superior species elevated above the rest of humanity...it's a very human thing to do."

She looks at Asagi. "Or were you comparing yourself to their slave soldiers?"
actuallyselfish: (Shock Lance...Discharging!)

[personal profile] actuallyselfish 2014-10-15 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
"Especially the bit about them tweaking your DNA and wiping your memories." Dido says. "Seriously, if you ever feel the need to defect from the MJP and go on a quest to recover your past, I'll help out."
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[personal profile] actuallyselfish 2014-10-16 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't think you have to worry about 'being human' or not, man." Dido says. "We're all descended from the Protoculture anyways."

Dido scratches her head. "But to play devil's advocate, you never really had a chance to choose to fight either. It's probably why they wiped your memories: so your only bonds would be to the military, and so your only sense of self-worth would be fighting."

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brought_it_back: (...worry)

[personal profile] brought_it_back 2014-10-14 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
That's...

[A disturbing question.]

...Yes. Those races do it as standard procedure, whereas humans...there's not...many...people like that.
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[personal profile] brought_it_back 2014-10-16 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
...Do you have any less freedom than a normal soldier?

Will anything other than a court martial happen if you leave?

Thrilling conversation

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star_of_sad: (Unease)

[personal profile] star_of_sad 2014-10-14 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know. I can think of many differences...
star_of_sad: (Sadness)

[personal profile] star_of_sad 2014-10-15 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Humanity uses cloned soldiers but they're not forced to, their future stolen away...

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[personal profile] sang_av_helten 2014-10-14 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I would not know Asagi of Toshikazu as I am not human. What I do know is that warriors should have the ability to choose and fight for themselves. Even if one serves under a leader for a glorious cause then it should be their own decision to do so.

[Skald grunts from his pillow off to the corner.]

And to force others to fight for you when you are too cowardly. Pah. Both the Wulgaru and the Balmarians are dishonorable curs in need of pillaging.
keep_your_dignity: (KOG)

[personal profile] keep_your_dignity 2014-10-14 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
NOT ALL THAT MUCH, TOSHIKAZU.

AT MOST YOU COULD MAKE A CASE FOR A DIFFERENCE BEING THERE IN HOW MUCH AND HOW EACH DOES IT, IF YOU'RE FEELING LIKE DISCUSSING ETHICS.
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[personal profile] keep_your_dignity 2014-10-15 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
WHAT I THINK OR THOUGHT IS NO BUSINESS OF YOURS, TOSHIKAZU.

YOU SHOULD BE WORRYING MORE ABOUT SOLVING THAT LITTLE CRISIS OF IDENTITY OF YOURS.

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deathflag_survivor: (Irritable Survivor)

[personal profile] deathflag_survivor 2014-10-15 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe we can just blame the Protoculture on all of this...
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[personal profile] gold_four 2014-10-15 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, we were created for space exploration, initially...

[A wild Ataru appears.]

But I suppose the main difference is the extent, so far. I mean, the ESUN didn't commission an entire species' worth of us.
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[personal profile] gold_four 2014-10-16 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
And we'd all die of food poisoning if there were a legion of Kei.

[After a brief laugh, Ataru sighs again.]

Though I suppose... that kind of gets into that debate of what we do once we're done fighting the Wulgaru, assuming we ever win this war. I know a bunch of people in Unity Group have offered to help us if we ever want to run away, but...

That kind of assumes we won't be just allowed to go, right?

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